it seems we are on collapse over of a security that we are being provided with, whether the marines, navy, coast guard, fbi, cia, and s.a., a local police enforcement, code enforcement, sheriff, highway patrol, national guard, airport and transportation security, board patrol, fire marshal -- i mean, is an over abundance. we have become a police state and it has destroyed the fabric of our society. i do not see how we will get out-of-pocket -- out of it puritans -- and i do not see how we will get out of it. i do not see how home and security is going to save us. guest: there is a veritable alphabet soup of all these to organizations that are designed to address a wide to -- wide variety of security issues at the federal level and local level as well as overseas. and congress, just on the street from the studios we are in today, are talking about the fiscal cliff and how much money the government should spend on security matters. that is an important part of the conversation. host: david maurer is part of the hollen security office. let's -- homeland security office. let's look at a